Tuesday, February 1, 2011

Convention of 1787: May 31, 1787 Day 5; The People will vote, and selecting the Senate.

With the Convention having decided on a Three Branch System of Government with Supreme power on May 30, 1787, attention was now turned toward the Legislature. The last order of business from the previous day was to postpone a motion by Edmund Randolph (Virginia) on proportional suffrage in the Legislature. The vote was postponed and referred to committee mainly due to the restriction placed upon the State of Delaware Delegation by its Legislature that the equal suffrage of the States shall not be modified (May 25, 1787). The fear being, that passing a resolution of proportional suffrage may cause the Delaware Delegation to leave the Convention entirely.

May 31st opens with a Eleventh State now represented, and taking its seat in the Convention.

  • Georgia – William Pierce

At this point now, only  New Hampshire and Rhode Island are not represented in the Convention, and Rhode Island has already decided against sending delegates at all. Also of note is in the Congress Assembled, two delegates from a state must be present for the vote of the State to be tallied, the Convention is willing to move forward with only one delegate to vote for the State they represent.

Constitution Convention Notes: May 31, 1787

This is the Notes of the Convention of 1787 (The Federal Convention) for May 31, 1787 The notes included are those that specifically address this day, and do not include notes of others who may address the topics of the day. You can download and read those, and the entire collection of Notes recorded at the Constitution Convention in the Links and Downloads section. These contain the entire series of Notes on the Convention from James Madison, Rufus Kings, James McHenry, William Pierce, William Patterson, Alexander Hamilton and Robert Yates, in addition with the Journal from the Convention can be read by following this link, Federal Journal of the Convention of 1787.

Monday, January 31, 2011

Constitution Convention Timeline

This is a chronological day by day account of the Constitution timeline of related links of articles written here. Dates of debate may be linked to the full notes taken by Delegates that date.

Convention of 1787: May 30, 1787 Day 4; Three Branches, and Supreme Power

With the Virginia Plan and the Pinckney Plan having been proposed the day before on May 29, 1787, May 30th would mark when real work of the Convention begins. Though two proposals had been submitted the day prior, it would be the Virginia Plan that would end up setting most of the debate for the foreseeable future. The Convention would go into a Committee of the Whole to begin the day, and elected Nathaniel Gorham (Massachusetts)as the Chair. The Committee of the Whole is a committee of the entire Convention with fewer rules, and a smaller quorum,, this allows for open debate and proposing and voting on amendments to proposals,  before the Convention proper votes of the final version of the proposal, and is method of conducting business still seen today in the House of Representatives3.

James Madison (Virginia) notes Roger Sherman of Connecticut takes his seat.

Three Branches of Government, and Confederacy vs. Supreme Power

The 15 propositions proposed by Edmund Randolph the day prior have been referred to the Committee to be taken up. Randolph moved and Gouverneur Morris  (Pennsylvania) seconded, that the first Resolution of the Virginia Plan “Resolved that the Articles of Confederation ought to be so corrected & enlarged, as to accomplish the objects proposed by their institution; namely, common defence, security of liberty & general welfare”, should be postponed to consider the following three proposals.

  1. That a Union of the States merely federal will not accomplish the objects proposed by the articles of Confederation, namely common defence, security of liberty, and general welfare.
  2. That no treaty or treaties among the whole or part of the States, as individual Sovereignties, would be sufficient.
  3. That a national Government ought to be established consisting of a supreme Legislative, Executive & Judiciary.

Constitution Convention Notes: May 30, 1787

This is the Notes of the Convention of 1787 (The Federal Convention) for May 30, 1787. The notes included are those that specifically address this day, and do not include notes of others who may address the topics of the day. You can download and read those, and the entire collection of Notes recorded at the Constitution Convention in the Links and Downloads section. These contain the entire series of Notes on the Convention from James Madison, Rufus Kings, James McHenry, William Pierce, William Patterson, Alexander Hamilton and Robert Yates, in addition with the Journal from the Convention can be read by following this link, Federal Journal of the Convention of 1787.